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This is the third post on the same topic in a despirate plee to anyone with scripting knowledge to come to my aid.

I need to be able to convert my files into nif formats, to be able to play in my game. I have been told to download the manufacturers converter, if that person is reading this please tell me what you ment and how you ment me to do this. If any one thinks they know of someone or thinks they can do it themselves please let me know, this is so ergent.

Thanks for your time,
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If you're having so much trouble following such simple directions, maybe you should consider taking smaller bites out of the sandwich.

Did you go to the website of the company that made this game? Did you even try contacting them?

Did you look in their downloads section, if any?

Did you check and see if the game has a community following? A forum maybe?

Did you try searching on Google for fan websites related to this game? Fan forums?

Did you look on your game CD for extras and goodies?

Really, you can't expect the people on this forum to know everything about every game file format ever made. So if nobody's answering you, it means they don't have the answers in the first place.

The questions I pointed out above, however, are common and valid questions that anyone interested in creating game modifications should ask themselves.

-Mel
 
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I just reviewed the other thread on this subject, and Alan East already gave you the answers. I guess you didn't read his reply.

So to avoid cluttering up the forum even more with unanswerable requests, here's the link to the official Morrowind forum thread FAQ regarding user modifications:

http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB7&Number=1216746&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=
 
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My regards to you,

My deepest apologies for the "clutter" I have caused (as you put it). I am afraid I am new and will have to learn from my mistakes, if my questions on the same subject have in any way anoyed anyone within this forum, then i send my deepest apologies. As for the other link that was posted to me giving me instructions, i was merely trying to ask him for more info. I did not quite understand him and just asked for amother explanation on his subject. Thanks to all who have tried to help me, and my aplologies for not understanding.

Your gratefuly
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It's not a problem.

I'm not offended or anything by your questions...I know what it feels like to be frustrated and unable to find answers quickly.

I forgot to mention another tip...if you feel like you need scripting help to write an exporter, then you'll get more replies if you can provide the file format specifications for the formats in question. The only reason why you weren't getting answers is basically because nobody here's ever heard of those formats.

But there are quite a few good scripters and plugin coders around here who may be able to help if they know how the information is stored in those files.

Also, you may be able to get detailed information on those file formats by emailing someone at the developer's site, not the publisher's site. I.e., Bethesda(publisher) won't know jack about it, but Elderscrolls(developer) is more likely to help. So sign up on their forums and ask away.

-Mel
 
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It wont let me add a nif to an attachment so im pretty much buggered. How else can moders have alook at a nif?
 
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Um, no. Please try to read the replies to your posts more carefully.

What I said was "file format specification", not "file format". The specification indicates how the file is laid out and what data structures are used. Uploading a .nif file alone won't really tell us anything, and I don't know that anyone here has the time, inclination, or incentive to break out their hex editor and try to hack or reverse-engineer a file format from a random specimen.

Email them or ask on their forums for the file format specification like I suggested in my last post. And for Pete's sake, read the replies to your posts more carefully before you post stuff that gives the impression that you didn't understand them.

-Mel
 
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Well I am very sorry...

I apologise for giving that indication but I did read that mail, the very fact that I missread the mail does not mean I didnt read it. If you can not be steady with me then I find that very unhumourable (to put it lightly). Remember I do not yet understand file formats myself, but i am reading about them and trying to learn more. I didnt get what you ment by file specifications so I replied and answered in what I thought you ment. In an action to try and not ask more questions and "Clutter" up the message board. I thank you for the reply but please try and be cool with me, I am but a learner and I have to take things at a slower pace than yourself.

Thanks
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It isn't quite a matter of being steady or patient. It's more a matter of learning to walk before one runs.

Frankly, and I intend no offense, the stuff I've been mentioning is truly basic and elementary. This is stuff that anyone with ambitions to mod and/or develop games should already know about before tackling projects of that magnitude.

The thing is, it's sort of like you're going to the Department of Motor Vehicles and you're asking them to issue you a driver's license immediately...without knowing anything about cars and driving rules in the first place. Of course they're going to expect you to know about those things before you start asking for a license to drive, so expecting them to indulge you or be gentle with you is a bit unreasonable.

I'm not deliberately trying to be mean to you or anything. It doesn't accomplish anything and it'd be more than just a little immature. I'm posting in this thread primarily to point you in the correct directions, and I'm just surprised that you're attempting to do something as ambitious as modding a game given the fact that you don't exactly have a solid grounding in the basic principles of how a computer game is laid out and implemented. After all, you can't improve a widget without knowing how it works, can you?

Having said that, I also need to say that it isn't an impossible task and that you should not be discouraged by any apparent negativity in my comments. Get acquainted with the basic principles...knowing them will be a major help to you if you want to succeed, as I'm sure you do.

Have you asked the developers to provide a file format specification for each of the relevant game files yet? That's the critical starting point for creating the appropriate converter or import/export plugin. When that happens, things will be able to move forward. Otherwise, you aren't even at the starting line.

-Mel
 
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I Understand, Im not trying to tackle a BIG project, the calabre of my work will only go as far as my learn't capasity, which as you pointed out isnt very much. However, I am learning each day and I am merely trying to obtain the converter first Before I tackle enything of such enormity. That is my first herdle, I will indeed do the step you have pointed out and for that I am most grateful. As for the mod making goes I will only be doing minor models to go with the game. I am not creating an entire game model system by scratch, just the odd model here and there. I do know the basics of modeling and I think I will have little problem in doing so. Once I have the files info I will post again.

Untill then, thanks again,
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